The Blindspot An Enneagram Podcast

The Blindspot is an Enneagram podcast that explores the way the instinctual drives impact the manifestation of Enneatype. We specifically focus on ways of working with the instinctual blindspot to support personal growth. The host is Kara Nance who uses Jungian psychology, Marshall Rosenbergs Nonviolent Communication, Sarah Peyton’s Resonant Healing, and mindfulness based techniques to support her clients.

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Wednesday Jun 29, 2022

Meet your hosts, John Luckovich and Kara Nance as they share with listeners why the instinctual drives are so important when using the Enneagram for personal growth and development. John and Kara describe their own journey with the Enneagram and their own process around discovering their type. The mission and purpose of this podcast are described.

Sunday Jul 31, 2022

Kara and John introduce the concept of the instinctual blindspot and define some key terms around “The Work”
2:00  – Why we can’t we always type ourselves?
4:00 – What do we mean by “identity”? How is this different from consciousness? What’s the role of attention?
8:00 – What is self preservation, social, and sexual instincts and what do we mean by a stack?
9:30 – Is our Enneatype and our instinctual stack nature or nurture? What’s the relationship between the two?
15:30 – How do we work with the personality, our identity, ego, and increase levels of consciousness?
17:00 – What do we mean by “spiritual”?
19:00 – Humans as unconscious machines
21:30 – What’s the difference between spiritual work and upgrading the circumstances of the personality?
23:45 – What do we mean by “presence” vs ”an attitude” vs “awareness” vs “rejecting our experience”?
26 – What do we mean by “sensation”, “emotion”, “thoughts”, “perception”, “feelings”, and “essence”?

Monday Aug 08, 2022

Kara and John discuss what this work means to them and where they hope to go. How are we using what we’re learning about the Enneagram and the instincts? What are the three lines of work that we can all form a personal intention around?
5:45 – why does John find the Enneagram to be fascinating? Why does he get so excited about working with the blindspot
10:15 – What do we mean by authentic self and transformation?
17 – The First Line of Work – working on yourself – what strategies have John and Kara been exploring?
30:30 – The Second Line of Work – Working with others consciously and “Being” in a group
41 – The Third Line of Work – Working for the sake of the work and paying the debt of our existence
44:30 – What are our egos working for and how do we “suffer consciously”

Sunday Aug 14, 2022

Kara and John dive into describing the instinctual drives, subtypes, and the controversies that exist in the field
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8 – What’s the relationship between the instinctual drives and the personality structure? Subtype as “Disease” and our growth path as a “treatment plan”
11 – Being dominant in an instinct doesn’t mean you’re good at it and what is Kara’s experience of being self preservation dominant
13 – How can our experiences with substances help us to understand our instinctual fears?
16 – If fear itself is not just Six what is Six? What does that mean about the Head Center?
18 – How might the self preservation dominant person experience the body?
22:30 – What’s the difference between an instinctual need and a strategy that’s manufactured by the personality
24:45 – What is the definition of essence? What is an Essence Quality?
32:45 – How does John look at the instincts verses how other teachers might look at the instincts?
37 – How do we differentiate competition coming from an ego structure versus the sexual instinct
40 – What is the special relationship between the instincts and the Enneagram?
42 – How can family be a strategy to meet self preservation needs in addition to social needs?
46 – What are the needs of each instinctual drive?
48 – What’s the difference between self esteem and self regulation in regards to the self preservation instinct
50 – What’s the difference between transcendence and individuation? Is this found in the self preservation instinct?
52:55 – What are resources and foundations and why is this important to the self preservation instinct?
55 – What are the needs of the sexual instinct?
61 – What are the needs of the social instinct?

Sunday Aug 21, 2022

Kara and John dive back into the needs of the Instinctual Drives and instinctural Intelligece as the ultimate form of preventative medicine on our quest to be a more sincere humanity
6:20 – watch Kara lose presence and get stuck in her one fix and shame spiral of point three and self-compassion her way out of it
11 – John describes what we mean about the instinctual stack and how the dominant instinct arises and the blindspot threatens it
13 – Kara discusses the impact of trauma on the development of our instinctual stack and her personal narrative
17:20 – John describes his personal narrative of how his instinctual stack emerged
19 Kara describes her theory of why certain instincts may become dominant or blind
22:30 – John and Kara describe the Enneatype of The Blindspot podcast
23:45 – John and Kara describe the instinctual fears of the self-preservation instinct
27 – John explains what an SP4 is and how it’s NOT “sunny”
33 – John describes the instinctual fear of the sexual instinct and how this is expressed in the frustration types 4, 7, 1
41:54 – The instinctual fear of the social instinct
48:42 – The competing interests of the three instinctual drives; what is each drive drawn to and what do they avoid?

Sunday Aug 28, 2022

Kara shares something about the pain her blindspots have caused her.
John and Kara how the instinctual energies show up in film and television and provide an overview of attachment types as well as a summary of attachment theory.
Kara and John discuss the different ways attachment and hexad types enter relationships.
Kara describes her theory on the anxious/avoidant dance of the attachment types.
Kara describes the journey towards developing earned secure attachment and how to navigate the repair process when there’s a rupture in a relationship.
John describes more nuance of the SX instinct and what we mean by “merging”.
Put in links to Diane Poole Heller and Sarah Peyton attachment theory stuff
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Sunday Sep 04, 2022

This week we’re exploring the relationship chemistry between a SP/SO/SX 3 INTJ with a 395 trifix and a SP blind 9 ENFP with a 926 trifix 
Listen to how tritype can help some find their way to core type
Listen to how Caryn & Sebastian found their way to their types and stack
Kara explains how Meyer’s Briggs type can also influence expression of subtype
Kara unpacks how SP dom can look very different depending on the zone we’re focusing on
Kara highlights how the SO instinct shows up differently in the 3 and 9
Sebastian and Caryn share how they’re working with their blindspots
How does an SP dom and a SP blind manage finances?
How does Sebastian’s “J” and Caryn’s “P” show up in how they keep their environments?
Sebastian and Caryn discuss the experience of their sexuality
Caryn and Sebastian talk about what the want to keep bringing presence to in their blindspot in order to keep their relationship strong and connected
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Sunday Sep 11, 2022

This week I share my experience of 30 years of intimate partnership with three different 9’s and invite you into the dynamic with my SO dominant 9w1, 964 trifix.
3:00 – Listen to Kara talk about what she loves about nines
7:00 – Kara shares her experience of growing up with two body centered parents
11:00 – How do we help 9’s get in touch with their anger?
12:30 – How do nines avoid the experience of discomfort?
14:00 – Meet Kara & Drew
17:30 – How did Drew find his way to Type 9?
19:00 – Why do nines mistype as fours?
21:30 – How do nines punish through withdrawl and how do you know when your nine is pissed?
27:00 – How do nines manage their exposure to unpleasant experiences?
33:20 – How did Kara discover she was a Three and not an Eight?
38:00 – Why do attachment types mistype?
40:00 – Drew talks about why he doesn’t think “having an instinctual stack” is descriptive or helpful
43:00 – Kara descries why she think we DO have an instinctual stack that we’re born with and isn’t going to change even though all instincts express at different times
51:00 – Kara and Drew describe the different wiring in the 3 vs 9 nervous system
54:00 – Drew describes his experience of his SP instinct
1:01:20 – Kara describes how her ENFP shows up so differently from Drew’s INFJ cognitive processes
1:04:00 – Kara describes the difference between Drew’s SO dominance and Kara’s SO middle
1:08:00 – Kara and Drew describe their experience of the SX instinct
1:15:00 – We discuss that SO dominant may not enjoy groups
1:18:30 – Kara and Drew express their experience of sexuality
1:23:00 – What does attachment to disconnect look like when two attachment types are together?
1:24:15 – Why nines hate having their location pinned down and how do attachment types help each other find their locations?
1:26:30 – The many different no’s nines will give you.
1:28:30 – Why Nines can’t give an emphatic yes.
1:35:00 – Kara gives final thoughts on what SX blind looks like and how’s she coming to identify it

Sunday Sep 18, 2022

Meet Ben! Our SP/SO/SX 6w5 with 694 trifix
Why boundaries are important to Ben and how he works with his tendency toward rigidity
How does type show up in our sleep patterns and why do we both love cuddling up with 9’s
How does Ben know he’s SP dominant?
How can Kara have so much “buzz” and be SX blind?
Kara and Ben describe their relationships to their SX blind instinct
How has Ben worked with his sexual blind spot?
Kara explains how Ben’s INFJ functions show up in his personal growth path
Ben talks about his Enneagram constellation
Ben talks about his philosophy around typing
Ben talks about what he learned from his breakup and gives us some great relationship advice
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Monday Sep 26, 2022

Meet Linda! Our SO/SP/SX 1w9 and hear about her experience of type an stack
Linda expands on the importance of the social instinct
How does Linda connect with her sexual blindspot?
What is body center’s relationship to anger?
Linda talks about the defense mechanism of point one – reaction formation
What are the cultural issues around anger?
Why do all mother’s have to work with some Type 1 anger
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What are Enneagram Blindspots?

The instinctual drives, self preservation (SP), social (SO), and sexual (SX) are the three forces that fuel every aspect of human behavior. A person’s Enneagram Type is the strategy that the personality has chosen to meet the instinctual needs. Personal growth happens when we can learn to become more aware of these patterns so that we can have more freedom from our identity structure.

Becoming conscious of the instinctual blindspot is one of the most practical, effective ways of getting out of the habitual patterns created by a person’s instinctual stack plus Enneatype. Working with the blindspot not only allows us to express a more balanced expression of the instincts, but also frees the heart, mind, and body from the forces that constrain their true expression. Working with our blindspots allows our three centers to integrate and come into their own, rather than being hi-jacked by the agenda of our dominant instinct. In addition to the instinctual blindspot, our Enneagram types, object relations, and past trauma also create an array of other blindspots, or shadows. It is important to acknowledge that we cannot become aware of what we are blind to, or can’t see, which is why this work can’t be done in isolation.  Because we all have an instinctual blindspot, we need mirroring, modeling, and support from other people. While there is a portion of personal growth work that we must and can only do by ourselves, a portion must also be done with other people because our personality is set up to prevent us from seeing our blindspots. John and Kara are deeply committed to their own personal work, and are passionate about supporting others, and creating learning communities in which we can learn and grow together.

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